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Yowza Bob,
Have they tried looking for RAG's in places other than just Jaguar/SS sources. When I went looking for a rear differential I found it was easier to "widen" the search to include other manufacturers that used the same parts. Minor tuning/tweaking mods might be necessary but they might actually locate the parts withut the SS/Jaguar price adjustment.
Makes me wonder where SS sourced them and whether Standard offered them on their line or was this just a harbinger of some of the engineering foibles that Jaguar would introduce every now and then.
Much as repect the RAG's originality I prefer the lighter to be inside the car rather than beneath the cowl. When the time comes I'll have a set for show but slaloming could get pretty scary with a firetruck following me.
Later, Good Health to All, Bob Lovell

Bob, Good luck in finding a set of useable Rag carbs as I know of one person that has been looking for a set for several years and the last time that I talked to him he still was Rag-less! I'll try to get in touch with the people that I mentioned tonight about you folks getting together by phone or email.
Bob

Yowza Bob S,
The RAG's apparently "run" well but if they are the ones I'm thinking of they have a few issues. From my "memory", the top of the float bowl is an open design. While this may be good for somethings going around corners tends to sling some of the petrol out if the float levels are set too high. Most of the pictures I have of RAG's have owner installed drip-trays to keep the petrol from landing on areas that may "light" it on fire.
I'll probably source an original set of RAG's but doubtful I'll use them for anything other than Concours. The car will be slalomed and I'll probably use SU's.
The later grille didn't surprise me as much as the Factory replacing the original Flatheads with one of the SS/Jaguar OHV engines rather than deal with Standard for a replacement. It makes sense as they might as well filled their own coffers as opposed to Standards.
Would love to talk to them, you can always give out my phone number, usually home on weekdays after 7:00pm and Saturday after 7:00PM.
Later, Good Health to You and Yours, Bob Lovell
I heard that the Directors were going to get a Parlimentarian to review the AGM Driven Division ruling on trailers, have you heard anything?

Bob, A good friend of ours just sold a very nicely restored 36 SS1 Tourer. This car was one of the leftover 35's that Jaguar updated the grill on and sold as 36. Believe it or not this cat still had the RAG carburetors and ran very well. The car along with it's also sold stable mate, a Swallow body Wolsley Hornet Special, were well known JCNA Concours competitors for a number of years in the NC region. Both cars were at the Meadow brook Concours on several occasions. If you would like to talk with these people let me know but I'll have to contact them before given out their phone number..

Yowza All,
Someone's has it wrong as the Tourer was not in the first year's line-up.
The car you have pictured is a SS1 Tourer, which made it's appearance after the original designed Helmut Coupe. The Coupe had the traditional long hood with a short and low roofline and the fenders were cycle type without intergral running boards.
A while ago the second SS1 Tourer which had managed to survive numerous years without being the subject of an over zealous restoration was sold at auction.
Only familiar as I'm in the midst of restoring a 1935 Tourer, aka the Pile o' Oxides. The 1935's were distinqished by the manner the frame's x-member channels nested into a box when it joined the siderails as opposed to being two c channels stacked.
Plus I'm not sure where SS bodied Fiats, and the rest fit into the picture. SS bodied other peoples running gear. If you were to actually delineate when the first Jaguar was produced that would be hard as there would have to be some qualifiers. Would rebodied vehicles fit that category or would they have to manufacture the chassis and engines also?
My best guess is it would have been sometime after William Walmsley departed and the company went public as some of the literature from that era show the SS100 and the words Jaguar on the sales brochures.
SS1's still had their frames and engines coming from Standard. SS had started to make their own engines by the end of '35. They had already converted several flathead blocks into an overhead design and there are some very late SS1's that purportedly had OHV engines from the factory.
Good Health to You and Yours, Bob Lovell

Besides making side cars, Swallow bought complete engine/chassis from various manufacturers and added their own bodies. Probably came with Austin, Fiat, etc numbers...

yes I agree but when it comes to VIN numbers from the 1930's I know little. What's more, I don't think they made THAT MANY cars back then,(as that number suggests), so there must be some deciphering to do with that VIN, unless they continued the Swallow cars numbering system into Jaguar...I suppose the JDHT would have the last word on that number.
Personally, even if that was the LAST one made, I'd be one happy guy to own it!

I intended to do some research last night but ran out of time. As we know Bill Lyons produced swallow cars before the Jaguar marque was introduced. He was a well organised businessman living in a very orderly world where keeping of records was paramount. That being said the first cars most likely would have had distinctive and "low" chassis No's as is the case with most manufacturers, 249088, just doesn't seem to fit the norm, BUT! Jaguar affectionado and etc.

I have no clue...but the first "Jaguar" was not the first car made by the company who became Jaguar, right?

Thank you for the info, what a strange request from the potential buyer. Do you think the first car would have a chassis No like 249088? Jaguar affectionado and etc.

and here's an old picture of the car, notice it has the same Registration Number / License Plate. The car seems to be well documented.

here's another view

I got it after I read an Ad posted in a Jaguar forum in the UK. The car is in Japan assumedly. The guy sent me the picture.

here's the message he posted:

"Hello to all,
I joined this web site with the intention of getting some information and making some acquaintances. My partner and I are in the process of purchasing a 1934 SS1 Tourer, chassis #249088 from a Japanese businessman. We want to bring it here to England and place it up for auction. Before we go through all of this, we need to know what the going price would be for this. I know there will be some who will doubt who I am and what I have, but I assure you I can back this up 100%. There is a full history on the car, to include original plates/paperwork, not to mention the car was a winner of the 1993 Pebbles Beach Concours d'Elegance. I currently reside here in England and will bring the car over once I have set up the auction. Any information or leads would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Lee"

After that, I don't know what happened. The guy has not been heard from again.

Very nice, is it still in existence & where did you get the photo? Jaguar affectionado and etc.

here it is, a 1934 build-date model.