Welded Bonnet Louvers

Thanks for the response. Yes, I missed the "wings" reference the first time from George. I'm going to take this as meaning mine should NOT have the leaded-in louvers. I do have Haddock's book, as well as just about every other one I've been able to get my hands on.

Chuck

" I think you may be able to buy it from this web site if not, search the Florida Club web sites one of those clubs sells it. I saw it on one of the Florida sites last week. Look at page 73 when you get it."

yes, it's on our site thru Barnes and Nobles.

www.southfloridajaguarclub.org

Pascal Gademer
SFJC

Reread George Camp's second reply and try to confirm what he says, "So the parts buls. say your car should have the modified drains and the new locks and wings but the old style hindge." George, among other things, is a paper collector and I'd bet even money that he has more information about your car than the Jaguar Archives. If you can't confirm what George is asking, try to find a local club member that can. Be very skeptical about what restoration shops may tell you, most will restore a car their way, not the correct way. If any of them refer to the english authors you've sited run out the door as fast as you can and don't look back. Parts houses are even worse. Get a copy of Dr. Thomas Haddock's "Jaguar E-Type 6 & 12 cylinder Restoration Guide". I think you may be able to buy it from this web site if not, search the Florida Club web sites one of those clubs sells it. I saw it on one of the Florida sites last week. Look at page 73 when you get it. We are all trying to help you avoid the mistakes that we made before the internet, this forum, and Dr. Haddocks great effort. Where are you located, there maybe someone close by that can help.

Stew Cleave
JOCO Chief Judge
'69 E-Type 2+2
and other LBC's

Hi All:
Yes, I'm wondering if my 61 should have the leaded in louvers--I've been told those were used right up until 1962, but trying to nail anything down as fact using Porter & Skilleter and all the rest is frustrating, but also part of the fun of owning an early e-type!

Chuck

George,

You're a JCNA treasure. I agree that he should seal Porter and keep it on the coffee table never to be referenced. Let's not forget to mention Bob's Stevenson's Judging Guide which is now available on this website.

Stew Cleave
JOCO Chief Judge
'69 E-Type 2+2
and other LBC's

Now we are getting somewhere- do you think the bonnet was replaced? Are you thinking that you should have leaded louvers instead of pressed? What do you know about the history of the car? Are you using Porter's Book? Do not or you will possibly spend $$$$$$ and go the wrong way. Check the other bonnet changes against what you have.

George Camp

My goal is to restore this '61 to as closely as possible original condition--given my limited resources, but now I'm wondering if it would make a difference in Judging if I didn't go through the major expense and trouble of trying to put the welded louvers back on the car (it doesn't have them now).

Chuck

Chuck,

Pay attention now. What is being told to you in this forum is that there is no definitive answer. It is not documented. Based on the serial number of your car, we can tell you that it SHOULD have welded louvers, but no guarantee.

Daniel
2002 X-type
1968 E-type
1958 MkIX
1952 XK120

Thanks for the info, but I'm trying to find a definitive answer on the welded-in louvers in the bonnet center section--above the carbs and exhaust manifolds.

Chuck

You are on. Parts Bul. P-44 Oct 61 made change to the body in the drain of the rear hatch Chassis 885033

P-45 oct 61 Changed the bonnet lock to the later style at 885021

P-46 Jan 62 reflects the new wings (sans hole) for P-45

P-47 New style hindges for bonnet 885385.

So the parts buls. say your car should have the modified drains and the new locks and wings but the old style hindge.

No Joy? Let me know.

George Camp

Hi George: It's #885041, a '61 FHC. It's just early enough and late enough to drive me crazy! I think all the changes happened right around the construction of this one.

Chuck

You will never get the information with documentation. It was a running change that did not affect interchange. I just looked at my supply bulletins and J 30. They document all changes to the bonnet and hardware that affected interchange very well, but do not address your question. What is the vin of your car. If it is low enough it can be assumed (but not proven).

George Camp