I have a 1985 3.6 litre XJS. The dash instuments work fine until I turn on the parking lights or headlights. As soon as I turn on the lights all of the guages die. Somehow they lose power. If anyone has any suggestions as to how to fix this problem, I would really appreciate hearing from you. There is a reference in Kirby Palm's book that suggests the ground to the cluster could be inadequate, allowing for a voltage drop when the lights are turned on? Has anyone else had this problem? Thanks - Todd Stuart
Submitted by dougdwyer1@com… on Thu, 03/17/2011 - 01:17
Submitted by Todd Stuart on Wed, 03/16/2011 - 10:28
Power lost to instrument cluster when lights are turned on.
Doug - I'm going to pull out my dash cluster in the near future and install a new ground to the top bar, as suggested. Any recommendation as to type of wire, like guage, solid or braided? Thanks - Todd
Submitted by SE98-32482CJ on Mon, 03/14/2011 - 16:43
Power lost to instrument cluster when lights are turned on.
If youare sure there is a signal to the instrument and a good ground then yes you need a new instrument!
Submitted by Todd Stuart on Mon, 03/14/2011 - 16:22
Power lost to instrument cluster when lights are turned on.
Hi George- If you would have a look at my most recent inquiry concerning the speedometer issue I'm having, I would be most appreciative. The reason I'm asking is that if your advice turns out to be that I should get another speedometer, the question then will be whether you think the speedometer in the instrument cluster that Rob Thuss is willing to sell [if still available] would solve my speedo problem. Given that the cluster has never been used I would think installing the entire cluster would make sense. Thanks very much. Todd
Submitted by Todd Stuart on Thu, 02/17/2011 - 13:11
Power lost to instrument cluster when lights are turned on.
Thanks for the info. When I am in a patient frame of mind I'll remove the cluster and attach a ground to the top bar you refer to, clean the connections, etc. Does the guage of the new ground wire matter? Todd
Submitted by SE98-32482CJ on Thu, 02/17/2011 - 05:33
Power lost to instrument cluster when lights are turned on.
Good point Doug--I remove the ground bars and clean them at the contacts.
Submitted by dougdwyer1@com… on Thu, 02/17/2011 - 00:49
Power lost to instrument cluster when lights are turned on.
The a ground "bar" at the top of the cluster...roughly behind the long row of warning lights. Run your redundant ground from there to a known-good ground point under the dash.
Cheers
DD
Submitted by bonnettoboot@e… on Thu, 02/17/2011 - 00:11
Power lost to instrument cluster when lights are turned on.
Todd, you can trace the ground connection by looking at the wires at the bulb holders particularly, follow the circuit into & from the holder you should be able to see the ground connection which is going to have lots of wires from all over going to it! If not. Altenatively reconnect the plugs and with the ignition on see which holder has a positive feed. The oyther is ground.
Submitted by Todd Stuart on Wed, 02/16/2011 - 14:50
Power lost to instrument cluster when lights are turned on.
Thanks for the input. I had my cluster out a few months ago and couldn't tell where the original ground connection is, nor where I should be adding a second ground. I wrote back to George and asked him if he could explain the location of the ground to me. I also said if it was easier I could send a close up of the back of the cluster as a reference point. Thanks again.
Submitted by Todd Stuart on Wed, 02/16/2011 - 14:47
Power lost to instrument cluster when lights are turned on.
Thanks very much for the input. When I had the cluster removed several months ago, I had difficulty determining where the original ground connection is made on the back of the cluster. I thought of adding another ground but couldn't tell where to add it. I don't know if you can explain to me the location of the existing ground and where to add another. I could also send you a close up of the back of the cluster if that would help. Thanks again. Todd
Submitted by SE98-32482CJ on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 17:16
Power lost to instrument cluster when lights are turned on.
Doug--gently--no kidding--like fairy dust easy!
Submitted by dougdwyer1@com… on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 15:20
Power lost to instrument cluster when lights are turned on.
Yup, likely a ground problem and likely traced to the printed circuit as George says.
The printed circuit contacts can be gently cleaned. Gently is the key word. I add a redundant ground on reassembly just to hedge my bets.
Cheers
DD
Submitted by SE98-32482CJ on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:21
Power lost to instrument cluster when lights are turned on.
Todd I would suggest you remove the cluster and check the condition of the printed flexable connector system with strong attention to the ground lug.
Nothing exotic needed. Just a piece of ordinary 14 or 16 gauge automtoive grade wire will do. Basically....whatever you have layin' around :-)
Cheers
DD